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Post by Batokusanagi on Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:14 pm

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Bubbles wrote:Apparently, NS doesn't think so. It thinks that Sakura was thinking about Naruto or that this shows Sakura is regretting loving Sasuke and is moving on from him.
Honestly I find that argument ridiculous. It's really nothing new Sakura not trusting Sasuke and being sad when thinking about him. It was the case at the end of part 1 and the beginning part 2. Hell, Naruto didn't trust him either and he also looked sad when thinking about him. Even now, to some extent, he doesn't really trust him. Does that mean that he wants to bring him back any less than before? No, and the same goes for Sakura's feelings.
Also, does it even make sense to say that Sakura loved Sasuke at his lowest (the Kage summit), but now that he's not at his lowest she'll be all like "nah, Sasuke, you're too evil. gtfo!"

Bubbles wrote:NS asks: is NS being fair to Naruto?
NS isn't fair to Sakura nor Naruto.


Not going to lie NS is sure it can say almost everyone in Narusaku really likes Sakura. The main thing with Narusaku has always been Naruto already loves Sakura and now NS is waiting for Sakura to return his feelings.
Exhibit A: Naruto loves Sakura? Since when?

As a Sakura fan itself, NS feels Naruto is the best thing for her, the main thing NS sees in NaruHina is that her fans just wanting her to have what Hinata wants and they never take Naruto's feelings into account, NS usually says just because Hinata loves him doesn't mean they should be together.
NH would say the same thing: Naruto supposedly being the best forSakura doesn't mean NS is going to happen.

Now is NS also ignoring Naruto in NS own pairing? Discussion with NS is most of the time about Sakura's changing feelings because that's what NS needs, NS dosn't talk much of Naruto's feelings as NS knows them. But just because Naruto loves Sakura is that the best thing for him?
NS also needs Naruto to give a damn about NS. Though, Sakura's feelings changing would mean NS getting at least one thing right.

Now NS is not saying NaruSaku shouldn't happen because it is going to happen :) But NS should look at all points and not the ones just involving Sakura. Like there are sometimes when NS doesn't like Sakura, like right after Jiraya's death she wasn't there for Naruto and even more she yelled at him for speaking out at Tsunade, but really he is just really in a bad place and NS wished she would have been there to help him out but...
NS should look at manga, is what I'd recommend.

What NS is trying to say is...is NS just as biased and ignorant as the other pairing(s)?
http://www.narusaku.com/index.php?showtopic=13356
LOL don't lump us all with you, NS


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Post by lily567 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:04 pm

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Bubbles wrote:Apparently, NS doesn't think so. It thinks that Sakura was thinking about Naruto or that this shows Sakura is regretting loving Sasuke and is moving on from him.
Honestly I find that argument ridiculous. It's really nothing new Sakura not trusting Sasuke and being sad when thinking about him. It was the case at the end of part 1 and the beginning part 2. Hell, Naruto didn't trust him either and he also looked sad when thinking about him. Even now, to some extent, he doesn't really trust him. Does that mean that he wants to bring him back any less than before? No, and the same goes for Sakura's feelings.
Also, does it even make sense to say that Sakura loved Sasuke at his lowest (the Kage summit), but now that he's not at his lowest she'll be all like "nah, Sasuke, you're too evil. gtfo!"

Bubbles wrote:NS asks: is NS being fair to Naruto?[/spoiler]
NS isn't fair to Sakura nor Naruto.


Not going to lie NS is sure it can say almost everyone in Narusaku really likes Sakura. The main thing with Narusaku has always been Naruto already loves Sakura and now NS is waiting for Sakura to return his feelings.
Exhibit A: Naruto loves Sakura? Since when?

As a Sakura fan itself, NS feels Naruto is the best thing for her, the main thing NS sees in NaruHina is that her fans just wanting her to have what Hinata wants and they never take Naruto's feelings into account, NS usually says just because Hinata loves him doesn't mean they should be together.
NH would say the same thing: Naruto supposedly being the best forSakura doesn't mean NS is going to happen.

Now is NS also ignoring Naruto in NS own pairing? Discussion with NS is most of the time about Sakura's changing feelings because that's what NS needs, NS dosn't talk much of Naruto's feelings as NS knows them. But just because Naruto loves Sakura is that the best thing for him?
NS also needs Naruto to give a damn about NS. Though, Sakura's feelings changing would mean NS getting at least one thing right.

Now NS is not saying NaruSaku shouldn't happen because it is going to happen :) But NS should look at all points and not the ones just involving Sakura. Like there are sometimes when NS doesn't like Sakura, like right after Jiraya's death she wasn't there for Naruto and even more she yelled at him for speaking out at Tsunade, but really he is just really in a bad place and NS wished she would have been there to help him out but...
NS should look at manga, is what I'd recommend.

What NS is trying to say is...is NS just as biased and ignorant as the other pairing(s)?
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LOL don't lump us all with you, NS
it mentioned that someone sees him as an idol(hinata), some sees him as a rival(kiba,sasuke) while another sees him as hokage(shikamaru) as for sakura, yes she sees him as a hero but she also sees him as a person


umm 1) hinata doesn't just see him as an idol she sees in naruto way more than anyone else.

it mentioned something about the flashback sakura has when sai tod her that naruto 'loved' her
to be honest from the time that sai said that naruto 'loved her I wanted to smack sai into next month. naruto never said that he loves sakura neverrrr.

I am tired of it saying that naruto loves sakura when he clearly doesn't in that way imo
if naruto's supposedly love sakura he would've answered his mom's request and he would have rejected hinata everysince

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Post by Irielo on Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:34 am

Let's get it straight, right? That NS argument stating that Hinata is obsessed by Naruto is a valid one just irritates me. Why on earth would Kishimoto create a side character who every time she appears, has something to do with the hero? Since the beginning of the series, Hinata's feelings for Naruto were made clear. These feelings were not only words and thoughts but they were put into action (Pein arc...).

Surprisingly, every time Hinata intervened in Naruto's life, it was in decisive moments with a positive outcome for the hero himself. Of course, I would like to see more or to know more about Hinata but she is still a side character and the role she has played/is playing in Naruto's life shows that she has been designed for him. If that were not the case, she would have maybe disappeared long time ago or her love for him would have faded away.

Hinata is not the only one who has something to do with Naruto and one of the most, if not the most important concept in this manga is the bonds shared between each other (friendship, camaraderie) and Hinata represents the bond of love in its romantic aspect in Naruto's life. This aspect had to be displayed and Hinata has been chosen for that particular role. In other words, instead of the hero being loved by someone all of a sudden, the manga itself showed that love was there waiting and most important, caring for him.
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Post by Bubbles on Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:50 am

What pisses me off is that NS wants to act like Naruto didn't need help with Pain. It wants to act like Hinata put them both in danger with her stunt and that she didn't care about Naruto's feelings or his asking nobody to interfere. All she cared about was "saving Naruto for herself" and this mindset comes from Hinata saying she's "just being selfish."

Just... 

NaruSaku, Naruto was ALREADY IN DANGER. If Hinata hadn't stepped in, Naruto would have been dragged off to the enemy, would have died, and then the whole world would basically be fucked. But oh Hinata is just so selfish for making Naruto witness his friend getting hurt in front of him?  
is NS fucking serious?

So I suppose NS thinks Neji is a selfish sonofabitch too for dying on Naruto's shoulder after he specifically said time and time again that he wouldn't let any of his friends die? How selfish of Neji to make Naruto inadvertently go back on his word, right? Oh, and how selfish of Sasuke for protecting Naruto back in wave country, having him see his comrade basically die (in his eyes) right before him! How selfish of Sakura, for shielding Sasuke with her body from Gaara back in FoD, and having Naruto witness that! She could have died  and then Naruto would have been so hurt, the selfish little cunt!

-.-

No NS, risking your life to protect/save someone you care about is not something NS should hate on anyone for! NS doesn't do it to anybody else with it's fucking double standards, so it really needs to stop doing it to Hinata.





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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:59 am

Bubbles wrote:What pisses me off is that NS wants to act like Naruto didn't need help with Pain. It wants to act like Hinata put them both in danger with her stunt and that she didn't care about Naruto's feelings or his asking nobody to interfere. All she cared about was "saving Naruto for herself" and this mindset comes from Hinata saying she's "just being selfish."

Just...

NaruSaku, Naruto was ALREADY IN DANGER. If Hinata hadn't stepped in, Naruto would have been dragged off to the enemy, would have died, and then the whole world would basically be fucked. But oh Hinata is just so selfish for making Naruto witness his friend getting hurt in front of him?  
is NS fucking serious?

So I suppose NS thinks Neji is a selfish sonofabitch too for dying on Naruto's shoulder after he specifically said time and time again that he wouldn't let any of his friends die? How selfish of Neji to make Naruto inadvertently go back on his word, right? Oh, and how selfish of Sasuke for protecting Naruto back in wave country, having him see his comrade basically die (in his eyes) right before him! How selfish of Sakura, for shielding Sasuke with her body from Gaara back in FoD, and having Naruto witness that! She could have died  and then Naruto would have been so hurt, the selfish little cunt!

-.-

No NS, risking your life to protect/save someone you care about is not something NS should hate on anyone for! NS doesn't do it to anybody else with it's fucking double standards, so it really needs to stop doing it to Hinata.

Well, now I know not to piss you off o_o hahaha but I know who made you this angry  

Anyway, you make excellent points. Without Hinata's help, Naruto was, in every sense of the word, FUCKED. Sakura didn't help, Kakashi was dead and Naruto was pinned. Fucked. Done. Hinata did what she did because she knew, even if she had died, Naruto was going to go extreme 'oh fuck no you didn't' mode.

Also, Naruto had 4 tails revealed when he fought Orochimaru for Sasuke. He had 6 tails in the beginning when he fought for Hinata, and 8 when the battle was almost over. Oh but 'Red, don't you know the whole village was destroyed and he was already angry?!' Sure that argument would be a valid reason as to why he was angry, but don't forget this: Kakashi was confirmed dead and Naruto just used sage mode.


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Post by Irielo on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:10 am

^Jealousy hurts and it hurts bad, really bad... If that was Sakura who ran to protect Naruto then NS: "Sakura isthe biggest heroine of all times"... I prefer to stop there because I feel I'm going to break the rules if I go further...

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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:20 am

Oh no you're correct on that. Double standards all day long.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, NS is a crack pairing, of some sort. Mainly because of all the evidence that has already been proven right and wrong  


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Post by GreatKungLao on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:21 am

Naruto said, that Hinata saved him at least twice, while remembering Hinata attacking Pain. For Naruto it was an actual saving. So who's right more, Naruto (Kishimoto because he wrote this) or NS? You know the right answer.
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Post by Bubbles on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:27 am

RedEyes wrote:
Well, now I know not to piss you off o_o hahaha but I know who made you this angry  
Yes, it was that pesky ship NarSack! It's like a nasty little fly that just won't stop buzzing about your face. -.-
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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:29 am

Well no matter how many times you attempt to hit a fly, sometimes you must let it kill itself. That lightbulb (NH moments to come) seems like an apt way to die, don't you agree Bubbles?
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Post by Irielo on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:30 am

RedEyes wrote:Oh no you're correct on that. Double standards all day long.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, NS is a crack pairing, of some sort. Mainly because of all the evidence that has already been proven right and wrong  
You are right to state that NS is a crack pairing because until now, both characters have proven that they could not go further than friendship because both of them have already their love interest. For Sakura, it's a long story: Sasuke and for Naruto he has realized or is realizing (for the skeptics) what love really is.


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Post by Bubbles on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:34 am

But NaruSaku wants Sakura to realize she's in love with Naruto...but what purpose would this serve to the story? Sakura had already come a long way from thinking of Naruto as just some loud-mouthed loser, to a genuine friend she's close to and wishes to protect! That's big, but NS just wants to push it further. With Hinata it's different. She's never thought badly of him, and saw who he really was. She had feelings for him for a while and they only grew.

It makes more sense to me that Hinata and Naruto end up together because Naruto had a crush on Sakura, but it was because she was pretty (and he liked her for wanting acknowledgment...from Sasuke). That came full circle with them both connecting deeply with Sasuke in the middle.

Meanwhile, NH connect on a more personal level than a third party. Hinata has done nothing but positive for Naruto in his life and Naruto has done nothing but positive for her. Sakura means well and so does Naruto, but Kishi made a point to have them deliberately not be able to understand each other even on a basic level that doesn't involve their missing comrade. They are great friends, but pushing it further than that, and it fails completely.
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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:45 am

The cycle of bullshit will end soon enough. All we need is a off switch.
But just to be clear, NS is fucking insane if it thinks that Dragon Ball Z can be used to help its case... facepalms all around for that argument.
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Post by Bubbles on Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:29 am

^
We all know NS is a leech that can't do anything but rely on third parties and other pairings (even ones that never happened or are from different manga's completely) to confirm it's pairing. That's how terrible the ship is.

Sai's flashback, the audience in the background, Konohamaru, Minato, Kushina, Gamabunta, Yamato (which was out of context), etc. Then it uses Sakura smiling at Naruto as a friggin hint. Just LOLWHUT? Sakura can't smile at and cheer on her teammate without it being romantically undertoned?

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Post by Irielo on Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:37 am

^When one has nothing, one tries to use everything to make it looks real... Regarding DBZ, it destroys completely the main x main argument because Son Goku ended up with ChiChi, a side character, not with Bulma. But again, I don't know what it's going to invent to make its ships look good.

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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:48 am

NS wrote: ChiChi slaps and punches Goku! So how does that mean Sakura doesn't love Naruto??
That's where that stemmed from. LOL As if ChiChi is anything like Sakura. ChiChi is a stay at home mother. I doubt Sakura would do the same. Hinata...? Well she's a peaceful type, so it's possible :3
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Post by Bubbles on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:00 am

That argument was stupid anyway seeing as Chichi is married to Goku and had been shown to have feelings for him practically since the first time she saw him. -.-

Sakura however, has always been in love with Sasuke, even now and hits anyone who annoys her, not just Naruto. It's completely different circumstances. But leave it to NS to ignore context as usual to try and force it.
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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:03 am

Exactly. I suppose she's dating Konohamaru now because of all the times she's hit him?
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Post by Irielo on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:03 am

RedEyes wrote:
NS wrote: ChiChi slaps and punches Goku! So how does that mean Sakura doesn't love Naruto??
That's where that stemmed from. LOL As if ChiChi is anything like Sakura. ChiChi is a stay at home mother. I doubt Sakura would do the same. Hinata...? Well she's a peaceful type, so it's possible :3
Anyway, could you imagine the future Hokage beaten by his wife? Pretty lame, isn't it? Just observe Sakura how she behaves with Sasuke... She even could not kill him although she resolved to do it. Poor Naruto has to endure her frustrations because she misses Sasuke really bad lol. I hope he'll be back, so that Sakura can cool down...lol.

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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:09 am

I hope NS can learn to read and stop over interpreting things such as Sakura's so called 'Love punches' on Naruto and every other character that pisses her off.
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Post by Bubbles on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:10 am

NS: But Naruto LIKES being hit by Sakura and Kushina obviously hit Minato too so there's that....he's a bit of a masochist really.  Besides, Sasuke causes her nothing but pain, she'll only be truly happy if she's with Naruto.
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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:16 am

LOL Which is why she was willing to lie to him and thought about killing Sasuke after Naruto called her BS. Also why she was willing to fuck up her friendship with Naruto and cause him to hate her, because she totally did it all for Naruto. Not for Sasuke because she still loves him, nope. Sai said she loved Sasuke so it doesn't matter. OH WAIT NS SAI SAID NARUTO LOVES SAKURA AS WELL! So there goes THAT argument.
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Post by Irielo on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:32 am

Sakura is happy that Naruto at least can understand her better than people like Sai or Yamato. She is happy that Naruto knows and respects her feelings for Sasuke.That's why I appreciate the neutral position of Kakashi, he knows team 7 very well but he never tried to assume things unlike Sai and Yamato.

Naruto would like to bring his "lost" brother back and Sakura would like to bring her "lost" lover back and Kakashi, again, knows and respects that.

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I'm out soon people. Have to wake up early. Have a nice time here by debunking NS arguments.

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Post by MichaelInsanity on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:37 am

LOL Thank you! Fuck, it's so obvious too.
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Post by Mustang on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:56 am

Another thing to note, is that Sakura knew that going after Sasuke was potentially a suicide mission, she knew she was going to die in her attempt, luckily Kakashi and Naruto saved her. now back onto the suicide mission, she had to make the false confession for a couple of reasons 1, it was like she didn't want Naruto to feel guilty about her actions and 2, she knew it would ruin their friendship. But she also knew that Naruto was not going to stop chasing after a person who he considers his brother.

That in my opinion is where any chanced of NS further developing into romance ended, the door for a romantic ending for NaruSaku slammed shut and now we have desperate attempts at nit picking for moments and downplaying true romantic moments between Naruto and Hinata, try hard to make NS look really good, but what it doesn't realise, the hard it tried the worse it makes NarSak look.

It doesn't care how bad it makes Naruto and Sakura look as long as they get together and make babies together, (okay that last part was a little over the top)

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