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Post by Bubbles on Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:28 pm

I have no doubt in my mind that Sakura is not "getting over" Sasuke, and is in fact just worried about his motivations and well-being. I am anxiously awaiting the upcoming chapters. I just know there will be a SS moment soon! It's all a matter of whether it will be positive or not. I'm rooting for positive, I just know it will contain so many feels if it is!
 
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Post by narutohokage123 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:48 pm

I was give too much credit to people against SS. All of you right. Maybe they are the one scared and worried?!

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Post by NekoKimio on Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:38 am

Usually when a huge amount of people are listing reasons and arguments why they hate the pairing and why don't think it should happen, it means they're worried or scared about it happening because it seems possible at the moment. It's a natural response when they feel threatened about what's currently taken place. ;)

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Post by CoolChels on Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:39 pm

Very accurate and that always seems to be the case to ones that are anti-SasuSaku, but as for us, no worries at all.
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Post by Yamasaki Akaiko on Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:18 pm

Actually, there's only one reason for the "trust" issue on Sakura's part. It's the fact that Sakura is ignorant of the reason for the Uchiha massacre. That reason is going to be revealed to her relatively soon. For me, the question is under what situation is she going to learn it. I do think the fact that she loves Sasuke will come out for Sasuke's sake before she learns the truth though.

The others need to learn it too for other reasons but this is the SasuSaku thread.
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Post by kagome1991 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:51 am

^ Oh yeah, now that you mention it, Sakura knows nothing about how or why the Uchihas were massacred and when she does learn the truth about this, she'll fully understand Sasuke's situation. When she does learn this it's gonna...

Oh, things are gonna get crazy real.
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Post by CoolChels on Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:26 pm

^ That they will.
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Post by NekoKimio on Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:52 pm

I CAN'T WAIT AND I CANNOT CONTAIN THESE EMOTIONS.



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Post by CoolChels on Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:05 pm

I know, I get so excited just thinking about it!! 
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Post by kagome1991 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:54 pm

I just like put something out there that's kinda been bothering me today.

Okay, so I was just browsing around deviant art, just looking at some naruhina and sasusaku fanart. And on some of the sasusaku pics had shown like clips of chapter 483 I believe when sasuke was about to literally stab sakura in the back. And the majority of the comments about it were all negative and about how can sakura still continue to love sasuke when he was about to kill her and that she needs some serious help etc.

So it got me thinking, is it wrong that I still continue to ship this pairing like there is no tomorrow? Cause it's true that he was about to kill her, but my thoughts on that was that sakura was about to kill him too so it's kind of even? I don't know. Chapter 483 happened a while back so...maybe people still think that or something.

So I was just pondering about it, wondering if it was just me who thinks that way or anyone else thought that way. Sorry for the rant, just had to put that out there. It was really bothering me.

I really love sasusaku and I wanna see it happen, so if it's wrong to be a fan of this pairing then so be it.~
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Post by Batokusanagi on Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:30 pm

Well, it's a good question. Why is she still in love with a guy that tried to kill her more than once? And Sakura trying to kill him to be "even"... I don't think that's how it works lol Though it would be quite the story for the children:
Little Sakura: hey mom, how did you and dad fall in love?
Sakura: Well, dear, it all started when your father tried to steal my heart...
Little Sakura: How cu...
Sakura: with a chidori.
Little. Wait, what?!

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Post by kagome1991 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:15 pm

^ Yeah you're right about the even thing. I should have worded that better. I think I read somebody's post on tumblr about this and they pretty much said something that made sense; um something along the lines of sasuke was already not in his right state of mind at the time.
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Post by Batokusanagi on Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:31 pm

I guess that if Sasuke apologizes for everything and Sakura forgives him, SS could have a chance, though who knows if he would apologize and if she would forgive him. I just see don't see SS happening very easily.
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Post by kagome1991 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:57 pm

^ True.
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Post by CoolChels on Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:29 pm

I know how you feel and it does get kind of irritating to when that is brought that he tried to kill her. I always say the same thing as well that he is not the same person as he was then. I don't think it's wrong to be a SasuSaku fan, I am too after all. I am glad she loves him and respect it despite all that has happened. It might be hard to imagine, however, I believe it will all work out!! To me it makes sense and it wouldn't if things weren't resolved between them.
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Post by kagome1991 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:35 pm

CoolChels wrote:I know how you feel and it does get kind of irritating to when that is brought that he tried to kill her. I always say the same thing as well that he is not the same person as he was then. I don't think it's wrong to be a SasuSaku fan, I am too after all. I am glad she loves him and respect it despite all that has happened. It might be hard to imagine, however, I believe it will all work out!! To me it makes sense and it wouldn't if things weren't resolved between them.

Ah, you made me feel so much better! Thank you coolchels!~

That's what I'm talking about. Sakura's love for Sasuke is unconditional as well as bittersweet so of course I wasn't expecting it to be all roses. Yeah I know it was crazy when he tried to kill her but he wasn't in right state of mind and he had so many issues to sort out. but I found out a lot of people stopped being fans of this pairing after that incident.
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Post by CoolChels on Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:47 pm

It is no problem and there are still many people who like them too and still have hope they will be together. Don't give up and have faith, for I know it will be alright!! 
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Post by kagome1991 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:49 pm

Gotta keep the faith! Thanks~
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Post by Yamasaki Akaiko on Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:33 am

kagome1991 wrote:I just like put something out there that's kinda been bothering me today.

Okay, so I was just browsing around deviant art, just looking at some naruhina and sasusaku fanart. And on some of the sasusaku pics had shown like clips of chapter 483 I believe when sasuke was about to literally stab sakura in the back. And the majority of the comments about it were all negative and about how can sakura still continue to love sasuke when he was about to kill her and that she needs some serious help etc.

So it got me thinking, is it wrong that I still continue to ship this pairing like there is no tomorrow? Cause it's true that he was about to kill her, but my thoughts on that was that sakura was about to kill him too so it's kind of even? I don't know. Chapter 483 happened a while back so...maybe people still think that or something.

A bad argument is always a bad argument.

You don't even have to go into the obvious self-defense aspect of it all. It's a ridiculous argument because that's not the version of Sasuke that anyone ships with Sakura (with very few exceptions... similar to how I never could understand the appeal of "evil" Kyuubi Naruto with Hinata).

This is a series where people who were originally enemies and tried to kill each other are best of friends all the time as long as there is an understanding reached at some point. There's nothing different from that going on here.

Batokusanagi wrote:Well, it's a good question. Why is she still in love with a guy that tried to kill her more than once? And Sakura trying to kill him to be "even"... I don't think that's how it works lol

Your order of events is wrong, which is one of the reasons I think the whole scene gets misinterpreted. Sakura is a horrible liar (only Naruto used to fall for it all the time--Sasuke never ever did). Sakura was there to kill Sasuke from the get-go and anyone who doesn't think that Sasuke didn't figure that out doesn't know (or forgot) how well Sasuke has always been able to read Sakura's intentions. It's only true that Sakura got off one actual attempt on Sasuke while Sasuke got off two, however there's no "to be even" going on in the situation as they were both trying to kill the other.

Personally, I think Sakura's also in love with Sasuke in part because he's the only one who has ever respected her by not trying to coddle her (which is the thing she detests the most as it only re-enforces her own insecurities with regards to being useful). He would point out what she was doing was wrong and he'd also acknowledge things she could do too. The only people in Team 7 that don't try to coddle her are Sasuke, Sai, and Yamato (the last two are the newest members of the team).

I'm still waiting for Kishimoto to bring out the reason for the initial attraction as all he's ever done is point out the reasons why Sakura wasn't originally attracted to him (his popularity, for instance, isn't a reason; it's another reason why the anime stinks when it comes to its portrayal of Kishimoto's romances for clearly contradicting canon by saying that's why she does love him).
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Post by Irielo on Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:45 am

Sasuke is someone who suppressed his feelings to achieve his goal: killing Itachi. Then when he learned the other part of the story, he went mad and decided to destroy the leaf etc. Now after meeting Itachi and the former hokages, he changed is mind and is back in team 7.

But still, there's a kind of ambiguity about him, like a constant fight going on inside of him.

Sasuke's goal is to restore his clan too and when he was about to leave Konoha to join Orochimaru, Sakura even meant that she would help him in this goal as well. He just thanked Sakura but it was not easy to know about his feelings at that time.

So much things have happened since that. If they have to come together, then I'm expecting some developments so that I can believe in it like in part 1, because to tell you the truth, I'm still quite skeptic about  this pairing.

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Post by kagome1991 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:07 am

Yamasaki Akaiko wrote:A bad argument is always a bad argument.

You don't even have to go into the obvious self-defense aspect of it all. It's a ridiculous argument because that's not the version of Sasuke that anyone ships with Sakura (with very few exceptions... similar to how I never could understand the appeal of "evil" Kyuubi Naruto with Hinata).

This is a series where people who were originally enemies and tried to kill each other are best of friends all the time as long as there is an understanding reached at some point. There's nothing different from that going on here.

Ah, yes you're absolutely right. This is that kind of series so something like the situation with Sakura and Sasuke trying to kill each other isn't exactly unusual but rather quite dramatic.
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Post by CoolChels on Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:08 pm

Those are some interesting point, I guess we shall see how things go.
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Post by Batokusanagi on Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:47 pm

I think you misunderstood me there, Yamasaki. I was replyig to Kagome that being even in number of killing attempts, doesn't make them right.
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Post by Bubbles on Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:00 pm

Sakura needs help! Who loves someone who tried to kill them?!

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Who claims they'll still love someone even if it involves killing them, and killing everyone they used to care about? (Itachi to Sasuke) Who relentlessly chases after someone and calls them "friend" after they not only tried to hurt them on numerous occasions, but literally chidori stabbed them through the gut which (IIRC) would have been fatal had it not been for his power? (Naruto to Sasuke) Who encourages this madness by continuously chasing after this person who tried to kill them? NARUSAKU.

The way I see it, if SS is supposed to be wrong or make Sakura "crazy" because she loves Sasuke without any condition (unconditional love anyone?), then in my eyes, by extension, NaruSasu, NaruSaku, ItaSasu and just about any other pairing or friendship/sibling related friendship that has had this kind of negative impact at some point is also abusive/wrong by default.

Family or not, I'm not gonna be loving my sister anytime soon if she tried to kill me and those I care about. Nor will I be calling someone my bff after they shoved a chidori (which is an ASSASSINATION attack btw) through my stomach (which was also a sudden change of heart, he would have actually stabbed him through the heart. This was in PART I too, before his crazy breakdown which is the only time he ever raised a hand to hurt Sakura.)

But apparently it's all good to dismiss this because "bros fight with fists" and some shit. NO SORRY. If SS is wrong because of murder attempts, any support of friendship between Naruto and Sasuke is also wrong, so is wanting NS to happen or wanting SasuKarin to happen or supporting the broship between Sasuke and Itachi. You shouldn't want to be friends with anyone who tried to kill you ANYMORE than you'd want to date them. You shouldn't feel so much love for a brother who continously mindraped and lied to you and killed your whole family. You shouldn't want two characters who encourage a friendship/love with that murderer Sasuke to be together.

Fact is, Kishi has made it blatantly clear that "attempted murder" is not enough to cut a bond or a future bond. Just look at NaruGaa. Didn't this guy try to kill Lee in his sleep, endangered Sasuke and Sakura, and tried to kill Naruto? Now they are all connected and buddies and shit.

Bee and Motoi were friends, but Motoi hated Bee when his dad died and blamed him for it. So he planned to kill him. This is a small sublot, but Kishi put it there for a reason. And no, it wasn't for his health. It was to once again shove down our throats that an attempt on a life and blatant and multiple agonizing mindrape isn't enough to stop someone from loving or being bff's with someone. Not in ninjaworld.

Its funny that anti-SS clings to this argument though, despite evidence of it not being shown as  anything other than a bad time in Sasuke's life. Hell, Sakura doesn't even address it when he first appears (not verbally or mentally) and once she realizes he's on their side, she's all okay and smiling and crying tears of joy. So...where's the conflict of that moment in Iron Country? There isn't one. Sakura believing in a happy ending for them all even after what Sasuke did should have been proof enough that it wasn't enough to stop her from loving him.

The way I see that argument is:
Naruto/Gaara friendship? FINE.
Naruto/Sasuke broship? FINE.
Itachi/Sasuke broship? FINE.
Motoi/Bee friendship? FINE.
Sasuke/Sakura romance? NOPE!

What do all of these have in common? Attempted Murder!
I call it being SELECTIVELY BIASED. You're not going to tell me SS can't happen/is impossible because of murder attempts, and in the same breath support any kind of relationship with the above mentioned. It's very hypocritical. Way I see it, either you accept that the way Kishi has set up  his manga and the relationships involved are not affected by something like that and take it as it is while maintaining that in RL life this shit ain't real, or nitpick the hell out of what you do and don't like to prove why a pairing can't happen, ignoring evidence of otherwise and claiming it's wrong while ignoring the other (according to the argument) blatantly wrong relationships.
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Post by kagome1991 on Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:40 pm

Bubbles wrote:
Sakura needs help! Who loves someone who tried to kill them?!

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Who claims they'll still love someone even if it involves killing them, and killing everyone they used to care about? (Itachi to Sasuke) Who relentlessly chases after someone and calls them "friend" after they not only tried to hurt them on numerous occasions, but literally chidori stabbed them through the gut which (IIRC) would have been fatal had it not been for his power? (Naruto to Sasuke) Who encourages this madness by continuously chasing after this person who tried to kill them? NARUSAKU.

The way I see it, if SS is supposed to be wrong or make Sakura "crazy" because she loves Sasuke without any condition (unconditional love anyone?), then in my eyes, by extension, NaruSasu, NaruSaku, ItaSasu and just about any other pairing or friendship/sibling related friendship that has had this kind of negative impact at some point is also abusive/wrong by default.

Family or not, I'm not gonna be loving my sister anytime soon if she tried to kill me and those I care about. Nor will I be calling someone my bff after they shoved a chidori (which is an ASSASSINATION attack btw) through my stomach (which was also a sudden change of heart, he would have actually stabbed him through the heart. This was in PART I too, before his crazy breakdown which is the only time he ever raised a hand to hurt Sakura.)

But apparently it's all good to dismiss this because "bros fight with fists" and some shit. NO SORRY. If SS is wrong because of murder attempts, any support of friendship between Naruto and Sasuke is also wrong, so is wanting NS to happen or wanting SasuKarin to happen or supporting the broship between Sasuke and Itachi. You shouldn't want to be friends with anyone who tried to kill you ANYMORE than you'd want to date them. You shouldn't feel so much love for a brother who continously mindraped and lied to you and killed your whole family. You shouldn't want two characters who encourage a friendship/love with that murderer Sasuke to be together.

Fact is, Kishi has made it blatantly clear that "attempted murder" is not enough to cut a bond or a future bond. Just look at NaruGaa. Didn't this guy try to kill Lee in his sleep, endangered Sasuke and Sakura, and tried to kill Naruto? Now they are all connected and buddies and shit.

Bee and Motoi were friends, but Motoi hated Bee when his dad died and blamed him for it. So he planned to kill him. This is a small sublot, but Kishi put it there for a reason. And no, it wasn't for his health. It was to once again shove down our throats that an attempt on a life and blatant and multiple agonizing mindrape isn't enough to stop someone from loving or being bff's with someone. Not in ninjaworld.

Its funny that anti-SS clings to this argument though, despite evidence of it not being shown as  anything other than a bad time in Sasuke's life. Hell, Sakura doesn't even address it when he first appears (not verbally or mentally) and once she realizes he's on their side, she's all okay and smiling and crying tears of joy. So...where's the conflict of that moment in Iron Country? There isn't one. Sakura believing in a happy ending for them all even after what Sasuke did should have been proof enough that it wasn't enough to stop her from loving him.

The way I see that argument is:
Naruto/Gaara friendship? FINE.
Naruto/Sasuke broship? FINE.
Itachi/Sasuke broship? FINE.
Motoi/Bee friendship? FINE.
Sasuke/Sakura romance? NOPE!

What do all of these have in common? Attempted Murder!
I call it being SELECTIVELY BIASED. You're not going to tell me SS can't happen/is impossible because of murder attempts, and in the same breath support any kind of relationship with the above mentioned. It's very hypocritical. Way I see it, either you accept that the way Kishi has set up  his manga and the relationships involved are not affected by something like that and take it as it is while maintaining that in RL life this shit ain't real, or nitpick the hell out of what you do and don't like to prove why a pairing can't happen, ignoring evidence of otherwise and claiming it's wrong while ignoring the other (according to the argument) blatantly wrong relationships.

Great post Bubbles!~ This had so many fine points. Thanks for sharing your insight. 
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